October 30, 2009
Well then: Pataki endorses Hoffman
Story at Politico, Politico hack (who I'm not a fan of) notes a number of Pataki's top campaign people and advisors work for Scozzafava, so he probably has in inside view of Scozzafava's campaign, so a Hoffman endorsement probably means things are bad for Scozzafava, which I think is probably true. Should be interesting.
I think Allah's concerns about this encouraging a bunch of third party shenanigans are valid, however being the spastic pessimist he is, I think he's overstating them by a fair margin. With the caveat that GOP leadership is smart enough to be twice shy after getting a nasty bite in NY-23, if they're going to be stubborn fucking retards and double down on becoming Diet Democrat, I guarantee they make limited gains in Congress and Governor seats.
I will say that if we end up with a squish candidate in 2012, expect a third party run from the right that does 10+%, RINOs will cry like bitches and blame you wingnutty wingnuts for "letting the Democrat win," but I can guarantee said hypothetical squish would have lost anyway, just maybe not as badly. Grassroots conservatives are making it damned clear they're in a foul mood, and they aren't playing games with the fucktards in the upper echelons of the GOP.
I think Allah's concerns about this encouraging a bunch of third party shenanigans are valid, however being the spastic pessimist he is, I think he's overstating them by a fair margin. With the caveat that GOP leadership is smart enough to be twice shy after getting a nasty bite in NY-23, if they're going to be stubborn fucking retards and double down on becoming Diet Democrat, I guarantee they make limited gains in Congress and Governor seats.
I will say that if we end up with a squish candidate in 2012, expect a third party run from the right that does 10+%, RINOs will cry like bitches and blame you wingnutty wingnuts for "letting the Democrat win," but I can guarantee said hypothetical squish would have lost anyway, just maybe not as badly. Grassroots conservatives are making it damned clear they're in a foul mood, and they aren't playing games with the fucktards in the upper echelons of the GOP.
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With the caveat that GOP leadership is smart enough to be twice shy after getting a nasty bite in NY-23,
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*wipes eyes* Thanks. I needed that laugh.
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*wipes eyes* Thanks. I needed that laugh.
Posted by: alexthechick at October 30, 2009 07:49 AM (8WZWv)
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Don't worry, the GOP will learn a lot from NY-23. They will realize they have to get candidates that are more liberal because the tent is currently too small.
Posted by: hudson at October 30, 2009 08:01 AM (n1uMU)
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Good analysis on Pataki, he might have been a ground-breaker when he first ran for gov, but not anymore.
Heck, maybe he just played a ground-breaker on TV for his first run.
If he's supporting the third party candidate, that means a lot, he's not really politically brave anymore.
At one point he thought he was going to be a candidate for president. He might have made it closer if he hadn't spent the days after 9/11 following Benito around and just nodding whenever Giuliani said something.
So maybe he's trying to position himself as a realio, trulio conservative (you'll have to ignore his record) to try to run next time.
2012 is going to be wide open in the GOP, the jockeying for position is going to be funny.
If the leadership tries to ram a rino down our throats, they're going to be looking at Obama II, although, if his numbers are low enough, maybe Hillary will be our knight in shining pants suit and save us.
Heck, maybe he just played a ground-breaker on TV for his first run.
If he's supporting the third party candidate, that means a lot, he's not really politically brave anymore.
At one point he thought he was going to be a candidate for president. He might have made it closer if he hadn't spent the days after 9/11 following Benito around and just nodding whenever Giuliani said something.
So maybe he's trying to position himself as a realio, trulio conservative (you'll have to ignore his record) to try to run next time.
2012 is going to be wide open in the GOP, the jockeying for position is going to be funny.
If the leadership tries to ram a rino down our throats, they're going to be looking at Obama II, although, if his numbers are low enough, maybe Hillary will be our knight in shining pants suit and save us.
Posted by: Veeshir at October 30, 2009 08:02 AM (pFu3Y)
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Whoever wins in NY23 the wrong lessons are sure to be learned by all involved, and the media reporting will be terrible across the board. That's the real tragedy.
Posted by: JoeCollins at October 30, 2009 09:36 AM (jtJig)
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