April 25, 2008

more misery with mccain

As I'm sure you know, McCain decided to trash Bush for the handling of Katrina.  Cuffy says Rush is going apeshit about it.  Cuff also argues McCain might have to do this, politically speaking, because whether people like it or not, McCain has to distance himself from Bush, and smacking him for Katrina is an easy way to do it because the "Bush's fault" narrative is pretty much set in stone, unfair as it is.

Conservative Belle, being from Mississippi, is kinda pissed with McCain's comments about Katrina.  Mike isn't real happy with it either. 

To an extent, I agree with Cuffy, as much as I really, really hate saying it.  McCain does have to separate himself from Bush.  Any Republican candidate would have to do it, Bush is unpopular, like it or not.  Beyond that, as unfair as it is, the narrative is written about Katrina, so there are probably some worse things to go for.  However, McCain never once criticized the failures of the incompetent reactions of New Orleans mayor Nagin or former governor Blanco.  If he had done that, there may not be this level of anger about his statements about the Katrina response.

Where the real problem is that McCain isn't content with doing the bare minimum when it comes to doing things that piss off conservatives. When it comes to dealing with conservatives he disagrees with, McCain uses grenades to clear brush that could be dealt with by hedge clippers. 

The NCGOP ad is a perfect example of this.  No one complained or had a problem with this ad except McCain.  McCain could have simply called the NCGOP *himself* and politely ask the NCGOP not to run the ad.  Did he do that?  No, he called a damn press conference and trashed the NCGOP. 

McCain better get it through his thick skull that he's playing a dangerous game, he can only kick so much sand in the faces of conservatives before they decide they've taken enough abuse and abandon him completely.   Some have, and I'm guessing more will if he keeps doing this.

Posted by: doubleplusundead at 02:19 PM | Comments (20) | Add Comment
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1

This reminds me of something....

Fat Teddy
I gotta tell you Makaniak, I always had a sneaking suspicion you were some sort of rat fink cop. But after today, I can tell you're a real dealer, just like us.

Makaniak
Me? A filthy narc partisan pig? If I didn't respect you Teddy, I'd punch you right in the mouth.

Fat Teddy
In my line, I gotta be careful. Before I let you in on the big score, I've got one more bipartisanship loyalty  test for you.

Henchmen pull back curtain, revealing policeman bound and gagged in chair. Fat Teddy hands Makaniak a revolver.

Hilly (Fat Teddy's gun moll)
Do it for me, Makaniak.I'll compromise with you all night long.

Makaniak's eyes narrow and he empties 6 shots at the back of the policeman's head. When the smoke clears, he is still alive.

Fat Teddy
You passed, Makaniak. The gun was filled with blanks.

Makaniak
Really? I've got an extra box of ammo back at my apartment, I can go get....

Posted by: See-Dubya at April 25, 2008 05:23 PM (dtCy0)

2 Heh, perfect.

Posted by: doubleplusundead at April 25, 2008 05:35 PM (s4EvZ)

3

Thanks for the link, Sinistar.

I really don't enjoy defending McCain. If it weren't for Obama, he'd be a non-starter for me. While a far cry from what I consider a conservative, McCain is simply the most conservative of the slim pickens left. The calculus becomes easy at that point. If McCain does/says something to change that equation, then I'll change my vote.

I'm no longer the table-thumping absolutist I was in college. I will not vote for some third party wacko, and I won't sit at home and hand the keys of the White House to Obama. Serve me my shit sandwich.

Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at April 25, 2008 06:03 PM (uOvAE)

4 Yeah, I'm still uncommitted, every time I think I can go vote for him, he decides to kick sand in my face and I move back into being noncommittal.  I understand and respect where people go on the McCain question as long as they're well thought out(most of you morons who come here do) and respectful of the other side.

Posted by: doubleplusundead at April 25, 2008 06:11 PM (s4EvZ)

5 I'm not sure I can pull the lever for him. Every time I manage to talk myself into it, he pulls another asshole stunt. I sure as heck won't donate money or evangelize this one -- and that's probably worth more than my vote. I'm beginning to think the best hope is to ensure the next president is so damaged he can't get much of his agenda through.

Posted by: S. Weasel at April 26, 2008 04:25 AM (Dy8+A)

6 What Weasel said. I guess an important aspect to this election should be to keep as many (R)s elected as possible just to block the (D) and McC legislative idiocy that's sure to follow. If we can just keep McC & Co impotent for 4 years, maybe a decent candidate will step forward. Hope waxes eternal...

Posted by: Steamboat McGoo at April 26, 2008 07:14 AM (DvoWL)

7 Yeah, that seems to be all there is to do.

Posted by: doubleplusundead at April 26, 2008 08:43 AM (s4EvZ)

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My problem with this? Just cuz he has to distance himself from Bush doesn't mean he has to feed into lefty fantasies and their "community based reality" as pushed by the NYTimesWashPostCNNABCCBSNBCetc. (and of course, Shep Smith and Geraldo).

That bothers me no matter who does it. Facts and truth have meaning.

Or at least, they used to have meaning.

Posted by: Veeshir at April 26, 2008 11:28 AM (zXUuJ)

9

That bothers me no matter who does it. Facts and truth have meaning.

Or at least, they used to have meaning.

I agree with you in principle, but unfortunately the media and political climate makes it impossible in practice for now.


Posted by: doubleplusundead at April 26, 2008 04:01 PM (s4EvZ)

10

Exactly why people should push back hard.

I'm not kidding about saying we're all doomed. When you have to feed into lies and fantasy in order to be taken seriously, you're screwed. Read up on the fall of the Byzantine Empire. The politicians (noblemen) thought more about fighting each other and ignored the barbarians at the gates. When we have people who have a serious chance at being President of the United States who think that Global Warming is a worse problem than global terrorism, you're screwed. And all three in the running are at least close to that position.

We're throwing $billions at global warming and scientists who are "skeptics" are afraid to admit it. You know, just like in the Dark Ages.

How about this extreme scenario.

We know the Sun is becoming less active. That leads to colder weather. We are generally about at the time for another ice age (within the next couple thousand years, but it could be now, or it could be in 4080 but let's assume it's now for argument's sake).

Okay, so as it becomes obvious that we are in the beginning of an ice age, the glaciers are moving south and it's getting colder and colder, know that we'll have the same coterie of global warmmongers seeing their next opportunity for big bucks in global cooling. They'll start pushing that it's industry's fault that it's cooling. As long as they act all commie in their calls for cutbacks, the NYTimesWashPostCNNABCCBSNBCets. get on board with the luddites and we get rollbacks in industry just when we need it the most (to keep people warm).

Begin as you mean to go on. The more you pander to know-nothing, anti-scientific, ignorant fools, the worse it gets.

It has to stop.

Of course, I think we're screwed and western civilization is all done, but some people still have hope.

Posted by: Veeshir at April 27, 2008 12:40 PM (zXUuJ)

11 I'm not convinced we're screwed yet, but we will be if we don't play smart.  

Posted by: doubleplusundead at April 27, 2008 01:53 PM (ZuzXA)

12 I think I may have the answer.  We get him elected and then kick the snot out of him once he's in office.

Posted by: Attila (Pillage Idiot) at April 27, 2008 09:42 PM (ZaM5Y)

13 I think that's probably what we'll end up doing.

Posted by: doubleplusundead at April 27, 2008 10:39 PM (ZuzXA)

14 I know I am coming in a little late on this (damned server out here was down all weekend for an upgrade) but I decided to <a href="http://barslavesandbananas.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/lets-play-a-game-katrina-or-nigeria/:> decided to write something about this as well.

Posted by: Old Iron at April 28, 2008 03:52 AM (tD0Cq)

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Dammit. I keep forgetting that you don't embed HTML.

Here you go.

http://barslavesandbananas.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/lets-play-a-game-katrina-or-nigeria/

Posted by: Old Iron at April 28, 2008 03:53 AM (tD0Cq)

16

I'd just like to add Steyn's quote I'm sure you saw at Instapundit to the record

In a scrupulously politically correct age, it's not offensive to organize a "Kill the police!" demo or to preach that the government invented Aids in order to perpetrate an African-American genocide. ...snip...What's grotesquely offensive is the chap who's insensitive enough to point out such statements and associations. 

So in other words, facts and truth have no meaning. How can a society in the Information Age function that way? How can a society in the Industrial Age function that way?

Answer: They can't.

I suggest you get something that is at the pinnacle of Western Civilization to be able to say, as you're squatting in a cave in 20 years, "I used to own a..."
I have a Mustang GT Convertible. I expect that memory to keep me warm as I'm fending off zombies not name Reagan Zombie.

Of course, I'll hopefully still have my Wildey (if it ever freaking gets in) to use as a "fender" so there is that too.

Posted by: Veeshir at April 28, 2008 07:55 AM (zXUuJ)

17 Yeah, but only the left and their useful idiots are usually offended, the average person usually isn't.  We just have to keep grinding away, what else is there to do?

Posted by: doubleplusundead at April 28, 2008 08:19 AM (ZuzXA)

18

I couldn't agree with the sentiment more.  McCain remains confused about who his opposition is. 

I saw a great way to show support for him as candidate but not his policies.  The suggestion is to show is campaign stickers upsidedown as the international sign of distress.

Here's a link if you'd like to use it.

http://norunnyeggs.com/2008/04/mccain-salute/

Posted by: Shoebox at April 28, 2008 08:46 AM (8Y2iA)

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Yeah, but only the left and their useful idiots are usually offended, the average person usually isn't.  We just have to keep grinding away, what else is there to do?

That was my point from the start that you seemed to disagree with.

I agree with you in principle, but unfortunately the media and political climate makes it impossible in practice for now.

Posted by: Veeshir at April 28, 2008 09:19 AM (zXUuJ)

20 Shoebox, I actually added that in the links before I saw your comment.

Veeshir...d'oh!

Posted by: doubleplusundead at April 28, 2008 09:43 AM (ZuzXA)

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