June 09, 2008

Fun With Hungry Truthers!

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This idiot saw "Loose Change" and completely lost his mind,

Blair Gadsby, the 45-year-old former owner of an adult-care home and an adjunct professor of religious studies at a community college, never figured he would be the type of person to stage a hunger strike outside the Phoenix office of U.S. Sen. John McCain.

But about a year ago, Gadsby convinced himself that the U.S. government, not terrorists, demolished the World Trade Center buildings in New York on Sept. 11, 2001. And that belief has turned him into a fasting activist.

I wonder how this guy got to be 45 years old being this stupid and gullible. I mean, it’s amazing he hasn’t been swindled out of everything he’s ever owned by Infomercials, if a pieced together internet film made by college students could affect him so profoundly. It’s a miracle he hasn’t accidentally stabbed himself in the eye, or drunk drain cleaner. His very existence, the fact that someone can be this dumb and live to be 45, is a testament to how great this country is.

Once he locked in on the idea that the government planned the murder of thousands of its citizens, it became his overriding priority. He wondered why it wasn't getting more attention, so he got the idea to sacrifice himself for some attention.

It “wasn’t getting enough attention” because it’s retarded, jackass.
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In May 2007, Gadsby, who was already skeptical that terrorists caused the attacks, found a video online that showed the collapse of World Trade Center 7. He believes the government has ordered media outlets not to show the footage, which shows the building falling in on itself, much like a building does when it implodes.

Truthers love that building 7 don’t they? It’s the keystone of their entire argument, the one thing they all bring up first, because you know, they’re all experts in building demolition. Never mind the fact that people were working in that building, everyday for the last 25 years or so, including 9/11, and no one saw any demo crews setting the massive amount of charges that would be necessary to bring it down.

I live in a city famous for building implosions, Las Vegas. We have an implosion every other day here. As a result, we get extended coverage of these things, and what many people don’t see is the prep that goes into imploding a building, which takes months of nearly round the clock labor. The buildings you see falling to the ground so beautifully, are barely even buildings anymore by the time the massive amount of explosives are detonated. They’re just empty husks, completely gutted, and every support beam is scored, so that it’s barely even standing.

That’s why it’s called “Controlled Demolition.” The building is this close to falling on itself before any charges are even set off. Nobody, not even super secret Government Black Ops Teams can quietly sneak around thousands of people everyday for months, completely unnoticed, to prep a building for demo.

The footage clinched it for Gadsby. He had to rethink all he had accepted about the terrorist attacks. He spent sleepless nights thinking about how the government planted explosions in Building 7 and then, most likely, the twin towers.

Dude, get some sleep.
Read the whole thing, it’s classic truther insanity, and I feel sorry for this assholes wife.
*cross posted at my blog*

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1 And if he REALLY thought about it, he'd realize that the amount of time needed to plan and execute 9/11 would mean that the CLINTON administration would have had to have been the ones to do it.

But, morons are morons.

Posted by: Kowboy at June 09, 2008 06:30 PM (kJiXe)

2 And somehow, the devious, scheming masterminds behind the attacks can't do a thing about some aging guy exposing their entire plot in front of a Senator's office in a major city. Ah, how easy the mighty fall!

Posted by: Slowking Man at June 09, 2008 06:47 PM (y7B6W)

3 He believes the government has ordered media outlets not to show the footage

Bwahahahahahahaha! The government can't even stop the media from uncovering terrorist monitoring programs and troop movements.

Posted by: Benson at June 09, 2008 06:59 PM (qzcNU)

4 The lead singer of Flock of Seagulls called. He wants his hair back.

Posted by: Hard Right at June 09, 2008 09:09 PM (wiTYc)

5 If he truly believed, truly believed down deep, he'd get out of the country as fast as possible if the government was so evil. Fact is the Troofers don't beleive their own crap any more than the bulk of conspiracy folks believe their nonsense. It's about being special more than anything else.

Posted by: rjschwarz at June 09, 2008 09:11 PM (0V1dF)

6 Little bus special? 

This is a man, like many troofers, who has so little going on in his life that he thinks other people have the time and the depravity to burn and crush the life out of 3000 of their fellow citizens. For Halliburton.

When I used to hear my grandfather's oft refrain "it's a sick world out there", I used to laugh.  It's not so funny any more...

Posted by: Evrviglnt at June 09, 2008 09:28 PM (fHemh)

7 It is so weird to see mental illness as it takes hold .  

Posted by: Kevin Mumaw at June 09, 2008 09:34 PM (0rjC3)

8 He worries whether he'll lose his teaching job.

Uh, yeah. Haven't showed up to work in a couple weeks because you're holding a crazy sign on the street.  Just had a crap load of education majors graduate from college looking for jobs.  You are unemployed and don't even know it.  My advice is to sue the idiots at Loose Change for lying to you, indirectly causing your wife to leave you and for you to lose your job.  Or find a good spot underneath a bridge for when you are homeless, you complete loser.  And don't count on Obama to make your life all pretty.  He's telling what you want to hear so you vote for him.  Even he doesn't believe his crap.You're screwed and don't even know it.

Posted by: Ken at June 09, 2008 09:41 PM (0rjC3)

9 Let me see if I understand this. The government staged 9/11 in order to justify going to war for, well, some reason.

The planes flying into the WTC wasn't enough to justify war. Killing all the passengers and causing two massive fires wasn't enough.

Flying into the Pentagon wasn't enough either. Killing those passengers and attacking the US military headquarters wasn't enough to justify war.

Flying the plane into the ground in PA wasn't enough to justify war. They would need more.

So they brought down the towers of the WTC with a controlled demolition killing thousands. That wasn't enough to justify going to war either. They would need even more to justify the war. What could they do that would really shock the nation?

That is when they decided that even if all of the above was done, there was one additional act that would finally enrage the American people enough to go to war: blow up Building 7.

What could possibly happen on 9/11 that would have Americans calling for revenge that would be more effective than bringing down a building that almost no American had heard of seven hours after the attack. That would finally make Americans mad enough to go to war.

Think about it. We all know exactly where we were when we first heard that Building 7 had come down. The rest of September 11, 2001 was interesting, but America wasn't truly pissed until they heard about Building 7. Up until we heard about Building 7, Americans were ambivalent about the earlier attacks. When Building 7 collapsed, however, America awoke from its lethargy and finally got good and pissed. Remember the Building 7 bumper stickers. Remember the non stop images of the building falling.

The administration was brilliant in risking getting caught red-handed in dynamiting Building 7. Americans really had no interest in the events of earlier in the day. It was the fall of Building 7 that is seared into our collective consciousness.

The administration are geniuses blowing up Building 7. They knew that only the destruction of Building 7 was traumatic enough to really scar Americans. They were right. I barely remember any other part of 9/11/01. Only the image of Building 7 going down was enough to make me support President Bush.

Posted by: RD Walker at June 09, 2008 10:03 PM (sqyw7)

10 The govt is THAT evil, yet they couldn't manage to dummy up some fake WMD's in Iraq? Like, counterintuitive!

Posted by: Mike Reynolds at June 09, 2008 10:04 PM (QTt2u)

11 Feel better, Walker?  How about a Cliffnotes next time?

Posted by: doubleplusundead at June 09, 2008 10:08 PM (53oBc)

12 That was fucking gold, RD.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at June 09, 2008 10:09 PM (SkqC2)

13 Well MP, you can't argue with facts.  The Truthers understand that without the destruction of Building 7, September 11, 2001 would have been a slow news day.  The Bush cabal could not allow that, therefore Building 7 had to come down. 

Posted by: RD Walker at June 09, 2008 10:19 PM (sqyw7)

14 What is a Lizardoid?

Posted by: it's vintage, duh at June 09, 2008 10:20 PM (nskvi)

15 Why is there no penalty for falsely accusing people of mass murder?

Shouldn't there be a penalty for that?

I mean, if I went around accusing Michelle Obama of murdering 23 prostitutes and burying them in various parks around Chicago, one assumes that would result in some kind of, oh, you know, legal action or something.

Or at least some free and mandatory therapy sessions.

Posted by: Merovign at June 09, 2008 10:22 PM (yi5TD)

16 Well, I've been told that all the people working in building seven were Joooos. Case closed.

Posted by: Eternal Kafir at June 09, 2008 10:23 PM (0ySWw)

17 Vinty, that would be LGF readers, and what a traffic rush they bring!  1000 hits in like an hour!

Posted by: doubleplusundead at June 09, 2008 10:27 PM (53oBc)

18 Genius, RD.  Spot on has never been so funny...

Posted by: steve w. at June 09, 2008 10:28 PM (AFPJd)

19 Here is an interesting fact about the Bush Cabal. They are evil masterminds willing and able to coordinate the most complex mass murder of American citizens in the most treasonous act in history. They are the most prolific killers in this nation has ever known, ready to kill thousands to promote their evil scheme. Yet the Bush Cabal still show great respect for the First Amendment, free speech rights of those who are writing books, producing films and hosting websites detailing their crimes for all the world to see. Not a single Truther has ever "disappeared." What an interesting dichotomy is this administration willing to kill thousands but unwilling to even shut down Truther websites.

Posted by: RD Walker at June 09, 2008 10:31 PM (sqyw7)

20 Walker, you crack me up.  Truthers are just fun to kick around.

Posted by: doubleplusundead at June 09, 2008 10:32 PM (53oBc)

21 And a good point, Walker.  I love Maddox's version of that argument too, if you've seen it.

Posted by: doubleplusundead at June 09, 2008 10:39 PM (53oBc)

22 I dunno Double, this stuff isn't that funny. For example, we know the Bush Cabal invented the so-called "terrorist pilots" who supposedly flew passenger planes into the WTC and Pentagon so that they could justify invading Afghanistan. Here is the real genius of the foul Bush fascists: they didn't create fictional Taliban or Afghan terrorists. No, they created fictional terrorists from Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Egypt to justify attacking Afghanistan.

We should redouble our efforts to find out why the Bush Cabal thought fictional Arab pilots attacking the US was better justification for invading Afghanistan than if fictional Afghani pilots attacked the US. Frankly, the fact that it doesn't seem to makes sense is just more evidence that it had to be an inside job.

Posted by: RD Walker at June 09, 2008 10:46 PM (sqyw7)

23 Remember i AM a moron.

Posted by: it's vintage, duh at June 09, 2008 10:47 PM (Ft6IZ)

24 The truthers suck so much

Posted by: winston at June 09, 2008 11:07 PM (LmHXU)

25 Yeah, but they're so entertaining.

Posted by: doubleplusundead at June 09, 2008 11:12 PM (53oBc)

26 Nobody, not even super secret Government Black Ops Teams can quietly sneak around thousands of people everyday for months, completely unnoticed, to prep a building for demo.

That is, unless they had Asgard stealth technology or Romulan cloaking devices!

You see, this guy Gadsby is right!

Posted by: Eris at June 09, 2008 11:19 PM (LBtqm)

27 At least Gadsby is authentic.  If I were to actually believe what the "truthers" believe, I'd probably be a dangerous individual.  Most of these idiots who do it as a hobby or a social club must either not really believe or be very very shallow.

Posted by: Michael E. Stora, Ph.D. at June 09, 2008 11:26 PM (yMGZP)

28

Just a little factoid that even Popular Mechaincs missed in their excellent debunking of "Troofers":

In all controlled demolitions of builings, the explosives are placed at the bottom, where compressive stresses are the highest.  The whole building falls intact into the bottom portion where the explosives are detonated.

In the case of the WTC buildings the failures occurred high in the building, just above the planes' impact points and the top portion s fell into the stationary bottom portion.  Go look at the videos and you will see the difference.

 

Posted by: Corky Boyd at June 09, 2008 11:35 PM (b8sEn)

29 I've posted it before but I can't find it right now, but there's a Rickroll that's hilarious, you'd never know it was anything but a Truther vid by the tags or description, it starts out talking about building 7, then fades into a Rickroll. 

Posted by: doubleplusundead at June 09, 2008 11:52 PM (53oBc)

30 Here is the real genius of the foul Bush fascists: they didn't create fictional Taliban or Afghan terrorists.

...or, more likely, Iraqi terrorists. It would have been so simple to justify the invasion of Iraq if they'd been Iraqi terrorists. According to the libs, GWB wanted to oust Hussein since forever, so why weren't they Iraqi terrorists?

Posted by: geoff at June 10, 2008 12:38 AM (WT3od)

31

RD, your post contained more insight than the whole of "Loose Change", and it made me laugh almost as hard. Great job.

I believe the troofers' excuses du jour for the controlled demolition of a building that hardly anybody had even heard of before 9/11 are: (a) the EVIL Larry Silverstein wanted to collect more insurance money (we're not anti-Semitic, we just like pointing out how Jews seem to like money a lot), and (b) the EVIL Larry Silverstein used the demolition to cover up some kind of incriminating evidence in WTC 7 (we're not anti-Semitic, we just think Jews are always involved in shady deals).

My question is, if he wanted to achieve either of these things, why didn't he just demolish the building in a controlled demolition that was quite openly a controlled demolition? All he would have needed to do would be to say "WTC 7 is damaged beyond repair, and besides, after the events of 9/11, who'd ever want to work in it again?". Then he could have sent Fiendcorp Demolition Services (or whoever he hired to bring the Twin Towers down) to rig the towers for detonation, making sure they policed up and destroyed any incriminating evidence in the process. That way, he would've gotten the insurance money and made 100% sure that whatever he wanted to cover up was destroyed, not merely buried under rubble to be possibly found later (or fluttering around the streets of Manhattan like the thousands of documents that fell from the Twin Towers -- blowing up a building seems like a really stupid way of "concealing" anything), all without arousing suspicion.

Apparently though, Silverstein is one of these criminal masterminds beloved by the troof movement, who at one moment is more fiendishly cunning and resourceful than Professor Moriarity, and the next can't run a simple cost/benefit analysis because he's too busy working out how to get the sippy cup in his mouth. 

Posted by: Michael L at June 10, 2008 01:23 AM (xQtti)

32 "According to the libs, GWB wanted to oust Hussein since forever, so why weren't they Iraqi terrorists?" - Geoff

God bless you brother, next time I'm chatting with some truther moron I'm totally gonna remember that.

Posted by: Robert at June 10, 2008 03:21 AM (4ixH5)

33 I don't who's laughing more.....Me or Islamic Jihadist groups....Scares me to think I have something in common with terrorists....  

Posted by: resize at June 10, 2008 08:29 AM (hRNQo)

34

One more point before this thread goes stale. You have to tip your hat to the Bush Cabal. After only eight months in office, they were able to recruit hundreds of demolitions experts, pilots and black ops types who were able to move like ninjas into NYC and plant explosives on every floor of the WTC. (Remember the “puffs” on each floor were explosive charges.) They did all of this without anybody being seen or anybody coming clean. How exactly do you recruit a building demolition expert to treason and mass murder?

“Dude, we are going to conduct the biggest mass murder and act of treason in American history to accomplish things that won’t benefit you at all. We need demolition experts. Are you in? No? Okay, don’t tell anybody, alright?”

So, after eight months in office they sent at least dozens of people to plant thousands of charges in a combined 220 stories of the WTC. They also managed to get planes to fly into both towers, let them burn for an hour – for some reason – and then detonate them. I guess they weren’t worried that a huge fire might interfere with their explosive control mechanism, but I digress. They also managed to launch a missile at the Pentagon and “disappear” the plane, passengers and crew that supposedly hit it. Pretty good work for eight months in office.

Now here is the mysterious part. The Bush Cabal was able to accomplish all this in the middle of the most populous city in America in a mere eight months. Why weren’t they able to plant a few anthrax shells in some bunker in a remote section of the Iraqi desert after 2 and a half years in office? Seems like if you could secretly plant thousands of explosive charges in two of the largest office buildings in the largest city in the US, you could plant a few WMDs in a remote desert.

Posted by: RD Walker at June 10, 2008 08:36 AM (WHfGD)

35

Walker, what you don't get is that Bush is a machiavellian idiot.

After you accept that, you can accept anything.

For instance, perhaps the whole deal was just cover so he  could blow up WTC 7 because there were uncounted ballots from the 2000 election hidden there and they were about to be exposed and he was going to be turned out of office.  

He did the rest just for realism.

Posted by: Veeshir at June 10, 2008 09:54 AM (ThMnZ)

36 Veeshir, as a raving moonbat I believe Bush to be simultaneously a genius and a moron.  He was able to pull of the most daring and wide ranging secret crime in the history of mankind after only eight months in office.  Unfortunately he was so damned stupid he couldn't invent terrorists from the target nation, couldn't hide a few WMDs in the Iraq desert and went to the trouble of imploding buildings when planes crashing into them would have been enough justification for his nefarious plot.  He is an evil genius with the ability to virtually bend time and space to his will and is still a slobbering moron.  It all makes perfect sense.

Posted by: RD Walker at June 10, 2008 10:05 AM (WHfGD)

37

Do you actually read the sign the Great Gadsby is holding?

"Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand Up to the Facts."

Uhm... yeah.  Wear some goggles for that blinding flash of irony.

Posted by: nightfly at June 10, 2008 10:09 AM (PuuC1)

38

These lunatic, oops, truthers, choose to ignore osama obama, oops again, osama bin laden's own brag that it was his organization that was responsible for the attacks that destroyed the buildings.

They take the "expert" advice from a few other lunatics (eg.  rosie o'donnell's claim that fire can't melt steel.  No doubt that now countless thousands of ignorant day time couch potatoes believe that absurd comment) and ignore the facts presented by well known experts who explain the force, dynamics and heat that was responsible for the destruction of the 3 buildings (4 including the Pentagon).  But, there is always one explaination for why the troofers keep spewing their insanity.  They will never be convinced by facts as long as they can hold on to their blind and irrational hatred of the US, President Bush, Republicans, Conservatives and Christians.

Given the total irrational beliefs of these troofers, I'm surprised that there have been no "reports" that Karl Rove was seen in the buildings just prior to their destruction.

Posted by: TheEnigma47 at June 10, 2008 10:28 AM (3YWxV)

39 It won't last.  A person who cannot be bothered to research this issue beyond being spoon fed lies by idiots is not going to stick this out.

On the plus side, if this guy ever decides to start thinking for himself, it will be pretty easy for him to figure out just where his life went off the tracks and make the required adjustments.

Posted by: Education Guy at June 10, 2008 11:04 AM (TBf8o)

40 Standing in Phoenix's 105 degree sun will cook off what's left of his thought processes.

Posted by: i at June 10, 2008 11:21 AM (KXZyh)

41

How much do you wanna bet this guy is a fierce gun-control advocate like fellow troofer Rosie O'Donnell?   A.  She believes the government is intentionally murdering it's own citizens.  B.  She also believes that very government ought to be able to confiscate all the legal firearms.   Never thought of any of the possible negative consequences when A and B intersect.  These people are beyond rational thought.

 

Posted by: pepster at June 10, 2008 02:34 PM (VOQen)

42

Nightfly @ #37: that poster is actually a cover of the full-length book Popular Mechanics released a couple years back.  John McCain wrote the forward, and The Grate Gadsby there added notes on the margin, in blue.

Anyone who actually believes that bullshit is either weapons-grade nuts, so dumb as to be a danger to others, or both.  That's the kind of bugfuck stupidcrazy that jumps off a building because they believe they can fly, and straps a bomb to their back while doing so because they think it will work as a rocket booster.

Posted by: marchand chronicles at June 11, 2008 01:06 AM (nhaP2)

43 all these comments are biased against the truth, it was false flag terrorism, all the truthers are asking for is a full independant investigation, thats all, so why not give it to them ... the official story is the conspiracy, the truthers have found holes everywhere and if you think they are kooks then you havent seen some of the people who have came out saying the whole event was dodgy, this is a propaganda site, go here and check who is making noises www.patriotsquestion911.com instead of running people down who see the importance of having a real investigations into things that defy science..

Posted by: i hear ya at June 18, 2008 12:00 AM (+3LLS)

44 dont you think its odd that the pakisani intellegence chief funds atta?? and the goverment says who cares?? dont you think its odd that the buildings collapsed at freefall speed and defys science and physics? and all you people do is run people down, go back to work at maccas and enjoy your simple lifes while some people have the courage to ask questions ... IF THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT GAVE A INDEPENDANT INVESTIGATION WE CAN CLOSE THIS MATTER, what are they hiding, and by the way all intell people know that it was false flag terrorism and many are documented, now quick back to your fox news .....idiots

Posted by: i hear ya at June 18, 2008 12:05 AM (+3LLS)

45

This is all domestic thoughts on 911 based on american manipulating media, your media doesnt cover this matter like the rest of the world, the rest of the world is concerned there is MORE than sufficient evidence to justify a proper investigation of all matters that have come to light.. WHETHER YOU AGREE OR NOT.. SUPPORT THE 911 TRUTHERS RIGHTS TO ASK FOR A NEW INVESTIGATION after all arent you the great and fair america?

Bring on the NEW WORLD ORDER, but please let it be owned by the people doing good for all on earth and not by corporate america

The solution is in changing the money system back to being government owned rather than YOUR current system which is really owned privately by rothchilds/rockefellars types!

Come on america ....lift your game and starting resolving this..

Posted by: i hear ya at June 18, 2008 12:30 AM (+3LLS)

46
Posted by: i hear ya at June 18, 2008 12:30 AM

You left out something:

RON PAUL!!! RON PAUL!!! RON PAUL!!!111!!!ELEVENTY!!!

Posted by: It's Vintage, Duh at June 18, 2008 01:51 AM (mv8F7)

47 WHETHER YOU AGREE OR NOT.. SUPPORT THE 911 TRUTHERS RIGHTS TO ASK FOR A NEW INVESTIGATION

That's some real innaresting logic right there.  Let's try it in some non-insane real life situations:

WHETHER YOU AGREE OR NOT.. SUPPORT [insert name of political candidate you despise here]

WHETHER YOU AGREE OR NOT.. SUPPORT [insert name of sports team you've never particularly liked]

WHETHER YOU AGREE OR NOT.. SUPPORT GAY MARRIAGE

WHETHER YOU AGREE OR NOT.. SUPPORT THE DEATH PENALTY

Etc.  You can see how it falls apart more or less around...immediately.

Posted by: Sean M. at June 18, 2008 02:37 AM (e6v7s)

48 You dont make sense Sean, your remarks are typical spin to tie 911truthers with other contentious areas, ....
if people dont agree 911 was an inside job they can still support an investigation,
all i say is give the 911 truthers and the whole world for that matter an independant investigation looking at the new facts that have come to light,
this is a huge murder investigation sean, the only lies that have been said have come from the white house, the official story and lies said by the white house is the conspiracy reality,
why do you anti truthers not support an enquiry?? what do you fear??
Are all these people in this link nuts to Sean??

www.patriotsquestion911.com

An investigation ends this, what does the USA government fear? why are they working so hard to block any real investigations? the truth will come out, it cant be stopped ..
what really happened? we will find out in time. 
what do we know did not happen? the official story....
SUPPORT A NEW INVESTIGATION NOW and SUPPORT 911 TRUTHERS, they are your brothers, your fathers and your sons .....

Posted by: i hear ya at June 18, 2008 10:02 AM (+3LLS)

49 And ignore people like SEAN's comments, what the phuck does gay rights and the death penalty have to do with a large group of people asking some astute questions about the biggest unsolved murder investigation in the USA that killed 3000 people plus more in the wars..  HAVE YOU ALL GONE TO SLEEP ON THIS? stamp up now and support the truthers!

Posted by: i hear ya at June 18, 2008 10:10 AM (+3LLS)

50 Hey "ya",

 ummmm......yeah, there already was an investigation buddy, they just didn't come up with the conclusion you want.

This is one of those "if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a fucking duck." type deals.

Unlike the JFK assasination with one short grainy film, 9/11 is the most documented event in human history,  captured from hundreds of different sources, all at the same time, from every possible angle, and all you got is how you think a building is supposed to fall?

Our government can barely deliver the fucking mail, and you think they could pull this off?

It's just retarded.  Seriously, get some help.

Posted by: bmac at June 18, 2008 10:36 AM (oRVu1)

51 IGNORE ME! [/Venture Bros.]

Posted by: Sean M. at June 18, 2008 11:05 AM (e6v7s)

52 Congrats, you just earned yourself a trip to the spam filter.  Knock it the off with the spamming and don't talk to my co-bloggers like you just did, capiche?

Posted by: doubleplusundead at June 19, 2008 02:22 PM (bEOD6)

53 Stop!  (Ban)hammertime!

Posted by: Sean M. at June 21, 2008 03:25 AM (e6v7s)

54 I know I just invoked the Banhammer, and I know I'm going to live to regret this, but I want to speak frankly to "i hear(d) ya" here:

You seem to be passionate about this subject, and I understand that you're upset about your ideas not being taken seriously here. You feel that we're not listening to your facts.

The problem is that you're actually the one who's not listening to a hard fact. The fact of the matter is that the people who read this blog and post on it don't believe the truther point of view. We believe that a group of nineteen Islamist terrorists hijacked four planes on 9/11 and flew them into the WTC, the Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania. We take Osama Bin Laden at his word when he brags that he was behind the attacks. You may have different beliefs—you may strongly disagree with us on ours—but the it's a fact that most, if not all of us, strongly disagree with you.

Actually, most of us think you're a fool. We hold people like you in contempt. We laugh at you while pitying you at the same time. I'm not saying this to hurt your feelings. I'm saying this because you've picked an obviously bad forum to air your strongly held convictions.

Look, no matter how many times you post links to that truther website, it's not going to change any minds here. We're just as sure that Bin Laden was behind the 9/11 attacks as you are that it was some sort of shadowy conspiracy. And if our host decides to block your comments, well, that's his prerogative. After all, this isn't your forum.

In closing, I hate to suggest that anyone should propagate what is, in my personal opinion, a bunch of idiotic bullshit about 9/11, but instead of wasting everyone's time here by posting the same link over and over here, where nobody takes you seriously by a country mile, you might want to create your own blog. There are a number of ways you can do so. For free, even.

love and kisses,
Sean M.

p.s. Please go away after this. It would be better for everyone.

Posted by: Sean M. at June 21, 2008 04:27 AM (e6v7s)

55 You just don't learn, do ya?  Quit spamming your websites, or I'll send your comment to the spam filter again.  I knew you were going to scream ZOMG CENSORSHIP!!! when I did it the first time, its so damned predictable. 

You can cry censorship all you want, it ain't censorship, it is dealing with someone who has no respect for my site or my co-bloggers.  You trashed my co-bloggers, and spammed your sites nearly to the point where the spam filter nearly caught your comments on their own.  Nearly every comment you've dropped here has been pinged as possible spam by my filter, I just pushed the last one over the top, and I didn't have to by much.  You posted two sites a series of eight times, all together, that's called spamming, and I'd send any comment to the spam filter that did that.

This is exactly why people hate truthers, not just because they find your opinion abhorrent, but because you're obnoxious as people, particularly online.  You're free to speak you mind, you're free to state your opinions, but you're not entitled to an audience, you're not entitled to try and hijack our audience, and you're not entitled to spam your websites on our website.  You wouldn't barge into someone's home or business to try and use it as a soapbox, why do you think it's acceptable to do that online?  It isn't.

This is basic etiquette online, and truthers have been proven entirely incapable of understanding that.  I don't go to truther sites, spam sites that refute truthers, then abuse the owners and contributors of the site, what the hell makes you truthers think you're entitled to do that to us?  You're not, and I'm not fucking having it here.  You've been banned once, and I'll see you banned again if you don't knock it off.  If you're smart, you'll just give this up like Sean suggests anyway, you're not going to find people sympathetic to your views here. 

Posted by: doubleplusundead at June 21, 2008 08:46 AM (IHU0R)

56 Goddam right.  I'm the only one allowed to hijack your audience.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 21, 2008 09:29 AM (pzen5)

57 no point argueing with sheeple .... 

Posted by: i heard ya at June 22, 2008 03:39 PM (Ot34C)

58 Baaaaaaaaah

Posted by: i heard ya at June 22, 2008 03:40 PM (Ot34C)

59 You're not spamming my site with that crap, either.

Posted by: doubleplusundead at June 22, 2008 04:21 PM (P2Jhf)

60 The government said a plane crashed at shanksville with the great big "lets roll" story, when the plane wreckage was documented as spread over 6 miles which can only come from being blown up in air ..anti-truthers please explain?
The government said a plane hit the pentagon when there was a 20ft hole in the building prior to collapse, how can a 125ft plane fly into a 20ft hole and leave no wreckage? they say the heat was so intense that titanium engines melted while comp monitors were left unmelted??, jet fuel burns at 650 degrees while titanium takes 1500 degrees to melt even then they would not dissapear, no footage from over 100 cameras were released, the office that got hit housed an investigation into 2.3 trillion dollars missing from navy budget, rumsfield announced the investigation on the 10th of sept and all paperwork dissapeared on sept 11th.. convenient!
The government said that two planes hit the twin towers which occured but the buildings fell at free fall speed and footage clearly shows steel girders and such being blown out sideways with thermite being found in residue as well as images of main beams being cut with cutting charges (FACT) and the freefall speed has been proven impossible by achitects and engineers who have compiled a website with support and comments from 1000's of professionals.
I read a comment about how could they set it up, dont forget there was an unprecedented security clearance days before and the nsa had a floor rented out where they could of easily stockpiled what they needed, and then on the security clear out day they got to work.
Remember the twin towers had asbestos issues that the insurance companies refused to fix which would of ended up with both towers being deemed unfit for use, they had to go..
The official report did not even mension wtc7 collapse at end of the day on sept 11 which was clearly imploded and 3000 wall street investigations dissapeared...convienient
Atta was wired money from pakistan isi chief who was sitting in the white house on 911 ?? and this was not mentioned in official report or the fact that nine of the so called highjackers are still alive and several were living and trained in us army bases...
I can go on and on and it is truthfull to say that the only conspiracy story was the official story, sold to the sheeple by the media, which doesnt correlate with known facts .. everyone who gos looking at the facts as anti truthers come out the other end saying it was inside job, that is why the truth movement is growing. do your research peoples!
911 was an inside job to protect US dollars being and remaining the oil currency, iraq switched to euro on dec 2000 and afghan said no to pipeline from caspian sea, and then we have 911 and all is reversed.
911 truthers only ask for a proper investigation dealing with known facts thats all..
I have seen the patriots question 911 site and there are 100's of top ranking military peolple who say 911 official story was dodgy.. many government people and academics from around the world all have said it was an inside job with the white house being highjacked through pnac and neocons who sit in the white house today with the vestered groups who support NWO and own YOUR money system ..
Blair Gadsby is going about it the wrong way but he should be supported for having courage of conviction just like your media got behind the hunger strikers in the red square and ghandi..
Doesnt matter if you vote mccain or obama, they are both arms of the cfr octopus, with both having the same owners ..
i suggest people here research the quigley formula and find out how your election system is manipulated and is rigged via electronic voting systems where results are changed to suit the purpose, presidents are selected not elected ....
America has a history of false falg terrorism including the maddox, northwoods, luistania, maine etc etc FACT, so why cant people believe 911 was an inside job when history has proven it has happened before..? america is not a benevolent society, the cia are today the leaders of terrorism and the only state sponsored terrorist group with global desires.
911 truthers are asking for an investigation... please remember this is a UNSOLVED murder investigation where 3000 died on US mainland 4000 troops and 1.2Miliion Iraqs ..
and all you can do is pick on blair gadsby?






Posted by: fair enough at June 23, 2008 07:56 PM (Ot34C)

61 Dear crazy person.

In order of inane and endlessly rebutted lie:

A plane did hit the Pentagon.  The plane had a wingspan of about 125 feet.  The body of the plane is only about 20 feet across.  When lightweight wing structures meet military reinforced concrete at high speed, they do not punch a hole like you'd see in a Road Runner cartoon.

There was wreckage, lots of it, and the engines weren't melted.

Two planes did hit the twin towers.  Thousands of people saw it happen.  It was recorded happening.

The buildings did not fall at freefall speed.  They fell quickly, but slower than freefall.   This is obvious in video footage, because you can see pieces debris that are actually in freefall, and they are falling faster than the building.

There is no "thermite residue".  Thermite itself is iron oxide - rust - and aluminium.  Two things you find in buildings everywhere, before or after being destroyed by fire.

Beams were cut up to be removed after the collapse.  After.  As in, you know, neither before nor during.

A freefall collapse may be impossible, but this is irrelevant in any case, because it didn't happen.

The official report was not a report on WTC7.  That's why it doesn't report on WTC7.  There is a separate report in progress on that subject.  WTC was not "clearly imploded".  It didn't implode at all.  It collapsed, after sustaining severe damage from debris and after being on fire for several hours.

Oh, and you're banned.

If you don't like it, go here.  The friendly folk at JREF will welcome a new chew toy.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 23, 2008 08:59 PM (PiXy!)

62 Gadsby went on a hunger strike to get a meeting with John McCain, who let him starve for 17 days before talking to him. I wonder how many of you naysayers have such conviction to act on your beliefs? It's easy to laugh and point your finger.
http://wearechange.org/flyer/flyer.pdf

As usual, you all seem satisfied with name calling and character attacks rather than addressing the questions.

Posted by: Damian at July 14, 2008 06:04 AM (hM/x7)

63 hey mate! its not insanity its called dedication and it emphasizes the seriousness it is to spread the truth and get the attention it is suppose to get. This man here hunger striking is trying to save your liberty and your country. His fighting for all the rescue workers, victims of 9/11 and their families and police and firefighters. They are the real heroes of 9/11 not your shitty bush admin.

Watch Endgame on google video and see how they think of you! They think you are pieces of trash that just eats and shit all day.

Posted by: dazza at July 16, 2008 07:02 AM (yej5M)

64
Yeesh. Foreign truthers are even worse than our homegrown variety.

Posted by: geoff at July 16, 2008 09:48 AM (jCVQa)

65 All retarted troofers are anti-Semite Jew haters!

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