February 28, 2009
Will Obama Try To Keep "Seniors" From Owning Guns?
Who knows. But The Man of Substance sent me this. Since I don't have a link, I'll put the text under the fold.
How many peace officers will have to retire because they are over 60?
Guns to Be Banned for Elderly
Staff Reports
United Press International
Washington
Deputy=2 0Attorney General Designate David Ogden is circulating a draft of an executive order in which, among other things, firearms possession would be severely limited to people over 60.
An assistant to Ogden told us, "It appears that in these changing times, it is no longer necessary to allow the elderly to be armed. With all of their physical ailments and increasing senility, to leave them in control of a deadly weapon would be ludicrous."
While the Executive Order may sound too powerful, experts in Constitutional law state that it is not actually un-Constitutional.
"It's a question of wording." states Columbia Law Professor, Dr. John Braxton. "The Constitution forbids the Congress, that is, the legislative branch, from passing any laws infringing on gun ownership. The executive branch is not included in this proviso. As long as the Congress doesn't get involv ed, it's technically a non-issue."
The Justice Department was tossing the idea of a gun ban for seniors during the Carter and Clinton Administration, but public opinion stopped these initiatives. Now, the Obama White House believes differently.
An unnamed aide close to Ogden agreed to talk on the condition of anonymity.
"Clinton and Carter didn't have as much of a mandate as President Obama. They were both Southerners, and the Second Amendment was sacrosanct to their constituents. However, President Obama comes from a new sort of politics, where divisive issues like firearms do not apply to him."
"Quite frankly, it's a shame that no one has had the good conscience to have done this already. It's a simple process, and the majority of the American people will understand it and follow the law."
The enforcement mechanism for this particular executive order has not been published. It is likely that the confiscation of weapons will be similar to Great Britain 's handgun ban, in which citizens willingly gave the weapons to police.
It is expected that the executive order will be given around July 1, when senior-related gun deaths reach their peaks.
The aide to Ogden stated: "For eight years you see the rolling back of regulation, and crime has skyrocketed. In fact, in Massachusetts alone, murders have risen 50% since 2002. Armed robbery has also risen dramatically. With such circumstances, we must act boldly."
I can't help but ask, "How much of this crime was committed by people over 60?" And how much of this crime was committed on people over 60 who are unarmed?
Define "elderly". 60? 65? 70? Who will determine who shall own guns?
My father is 62, and save a COPD and shoulder issue, is still sharp. I have two co-workers who are in their late 70s. And they are sharp as tacks. Should they be denied the right to defend themselves?
How many peace officers will have to retire because they are over 60?
Guns to Be Banned for Elderly
Staff Reports
United Press International
Washington
Deputy=2 0Attorney General Designate David Ogden is circulating a draft of an executive order in which, among other things, firearms possession would be severely limited to people over 60.
An assistant to Ogden told us, "It appears that in these changing times, it is no longer necessary to allow the elderly to be armed. With all of their physical ailments and increasing senility, to leave them in control of a deadly weapon would be ludicrous."
While the Executive Order may sound too powerful, experts in Constitutional law state that it is not actually un-Constitutional.
"It's a question of wording." states Columbia Law Professor, Dr. John Braxton. "The Constitution forbids the Congress, that is, the legislative branch, from passing any laws infringing on gun ownership. The executive branch is not included in this proviso. As long as the Congress doesn't get involv ed, it's technically a non-issue."
The Justice Department was tossing the idea of a gun ban for seniors during the Carter and Clinton Administration, but public opinion stopped these initiatives. Now, the Obama White House believes differently.
An unnamed aide close to Ogden agreed to talk on the condition of anonymity.
"Clinton and Carter didn't have as much of a mandate as President Obama. They were both Southerners, and the Second Amendment was sacrosanct to their constituents. However, President Obama comes from a new sort of politics, where divisive issues like firearms do not apply to him."
"Quite frankly, it's a shame that no one has had the good conscience to have done this already. It's a simple process, and the majority of the American people will understand it and follow the law."
The enforcement mechanism for this particular executive order has not been published. It is likely that the confiscation of weapons will be similar to Great Britain 's handgun ban, in which citizens willingly gave the weapons to police.
It is expected that the executive order will be given around July 1, when senior-related gun deaths reach their peaks.
The aide to Ogden stated: "For eight years you see the rolling back of regulation, and crime has skyrocketed. In fact, in Massachusetts alone, murders have risen 50% since 2002. Armed robbery has also risen dramatically. With such circumstances, we must act boldly."
I can't help but ask, "How much of this crime was committed by people over 60?" And how much of this crime was committed on people over 60 who are unarmed?
Define "elderly". 60? 65? 70? Who will determine who shall own guns?
My father is 62, and save a COPD and shoulder issue, is still sharp. I have two co-workers who are in their late 70s. And they are sharp as tacks. Should they be denied the right to defend themselves?
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Since they don't justify it with evidence or sustained reasoning, what Obama is really saying is, "I'll start with the ones I think are weakest first."
Posted by: snaggletoothie at February 28, 2009 01:44 AM (9m+gW)
Posted by: doubleplusundead at February 28, 2009 01:57 AM (3ogma)
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That was hilarious. But I'm a bit soused, so:
Its not April 1 yet.
"Congress shall make no law." The executive branch cannot make law. The folks in the black robes can read--even the ultra-liberal cancer-ridden hags.
Still, very funny.
Its not April 1 yet.
"Congress shall make no law." The executive branch cannot make law. The folks in the black robes can read--even the ultra-liberal cancer-ridden hags.
Still, very funny.
Posted by: cbullitt at February 28, 2009 03:03 AM (2irzt)
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Damn. And I was gonna get good and angry.
Posted by: eddiebear at February 28, 2009 07:24 PM (KAlfD)
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I thought it was real too. Dug around and found the source blog.
I was all set to run to Wal-Mart and buy a pitchfork.
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