1

It's funny the way you act as if a NY politician could understand something as esoteric as basic logic.

You raise taxes to increase what the state collects, everybody knows that. You see, if I get $1 on every pack I'll make 20 times as much as if I got 5¢ on each pack.

Then, I'll pay for more cops to bust the people smuggling and voila, profit.

2 Oh I know you can't expect logic and common sense from a NY any politician, still mind boggling.

3

NY Pols are in a class(less) by themselves.

They've taxed industry out of the state so how do they think they'll get the state back on its feet? More taxes!

It's funny cuz I don't live there anymore.

4 My knowledge on this issue is a little sketchy, but aren't tribes technically sovereign nations on their reservations?

If so, how do we legally tax them?

Maybe it's different in California, which wouldn't be surprising.

5 Along our borders with NY, NJ and MD we have shops they visit to escape taxes.  There is a huge outlet mall in Tannersville, PA that people in NY and NJ flood daily with shoppers looking to buy clothes and other things in order to escape the high taxes back home.  Thanks NY, NJ and MD!  As long as our politicians in PA aren't retarded enough to kill that golden goose, and as long as NY, NJ and MD politicians don't do it either, we'll keep cashing in.

6 Joseph, you got me dude, I thought the same.  Looks like they'll try though...

7 The reservation angle I hadn't heard about before. But the impulse that drives pols to try and collect sin taxes on tobacco sales is all too common. We're morally sub-human in their eyes. Subject to different rules. I predict caffeine use is next in line for singling out as a sign of weak moral character.

8 Caffeine...interesting, but I'm gonna go with certain snack foods, or soda, which might overlap your guess.

9 Next thing ya know they'll be mocking us for not knowing how to use the three seashells...

10 HAHAHAHA!!!  You didn't even need to link the reference.  I still make references to Taco Bell winning the Franchise War.

11 It's a classic and very underrated flick.

12 Demolition Man is simply exquisite in its awfulness.

13 Or they could repeal tobacco taxes entirely and cut spending by an equal amount.

14 Demolition Man is simply exquisite in its awfulness.

No way - it's end to end funny. "President Schwarzenegger?" The radio station that just plays jingles from commercials? Sandra Bulluck in those stretchy pants (hawt)? Dennis Leary as the hyperfrenetic underground leader? The Verbal Moralities Act?

15

I pretty much will not watch Stallone movies not named "Rocky I,II,III or IV" but I watch Demolition Man almost every time.

It is funny and Stallone actually makes me laugh. On purpose! I like the guy from Law & Order who plays a wimp trying to be all manly. He cracks me up too. And Leary's rant about freedom? That should be required reading for all high school students.

16 It really is a riot to watch, Veeshir, what about Death Wish?

17

I don't want to bore you with the details, the bottom line is NY will not be able to enforce the collection of this tax.

The tax is owed by the consumer to the state, if I buy a carton of smokes, the tax is owed by me.  NY (and all other taxing authorities) license the retailer to collect the tax on behalf of the state, and render it.  That's how it's enforced.

If I buy smokes on a reservation, or out of state, and bring them into the state, I (technically) owe the tax, but they can't collect it from me cause I gots ninja moves and the kung fu grip (otherwise known as "they don't know where I am or what I done did).  The only way to enforce it, is to make the reservations collect it, and they do not have the authority to make them do so..

18 Chicago already has a soda tax.  It was a penny a can when I lived there.

Doesn't sound like much, but that's a lot of pennies.

19

Dave in Texas, the problem is that you live in Texas. You have no idea how socialist/communist states work.

DPU, no luck on the hand-cannon front.

Death Wish 3 was on Friday night and I called the gun store to bother them, they still hadn't heard.

 That M1919 is looking more and more likely every day. I don't know how long I can keep $2k disposible in my bank account.

20 You'll have to buy links, and probably one of those gizmos that sets the links and ammo chain, unless you're gonna do it by hand...which would be unpleasant, but still...1919 Browning.

21

Awww, poor me. I have to sit there and fit .308 ammo into links.

You're talking to someone who thinks it's fun to clean his guns.

I'll give you a hint, I'm not buying the Wildey as my first gun, or my 10th. I worked my way through the cheaper stuff I want and now I'm up to the $1k-$2k range. How many Winchesters, Rugers, Sigs, Bushmasters, AKs and Smith & Wessons does one guy need?

Just wait until I get to the $10k-$20k range and I buy either a real Thompson, an M-60 or quad .50s. By then, I'll be living in my compound mumbling about black helicopters, but I'll be having a lot of fun.

22 Heh.  Have you seen the semi-auto DP-28s?  They're $3K and shoot 7.62x54Rs.