1 I thought people would wake up a little and smell the coffee after getting Sharron Angle nominated.  I hope she beats Dingy Harry, but she's only in the game because Harry is so goshdarn awful.  If she wins --which she very well might-- it will be because her campaign will have managed to contain teh crayzee.

I'm totally on the same page as Ace on this.

Is there some kind of, ya know, strategically rational faction of the Tea Party I can root for?

2 Without downplaying the inherent crazy of Christine O'Donnell (which should have been evident from her hosting gigs on Hannity's show - I despise Hannity)...

Strategically rational has given us McCain, Guiliani, both Bushes, Specter, Murkowski, Delay, and Boehner.

If my choice is those versus crazy, I'm almost ready to side with crazy.

As in, on the Sharron Angle end. O'Donnell is a bridge too far - we have enough mean-spirited poseurs just in our strategically rational group. We don't need to import more.

3 Also, I've never heard of not getting a degree for twelve years (or whatever) because of student debt.  They don't give you your sheepskin if you didn't make your regular payments.  It shouldn't have taken her so long to straighten herself out w/ the Bursar.

4 Ella, you're making a point about ideology, and I'm making a point about tact, sanity, and general qualification.  I'm with you on the ideology thing to a large degree.  I could point you to more than a few lengthy blog posts I've written on the matter, all basically arguing that we're capable of electing more conservative candidates than the self-styled GOP elite gives us credit for.

But you can't just put up any old person who yells something about "the Constitution" just because the inside-track candidate has RINO tendencies. 

Guiliani??  He was the most conservative Northeast big city mayor you're going to see in your lifetime.  And he didn't get to be the prez nominee, so not seeing the point there.

5 I would rather see voters screw it up our political betters. 

I'm looking at the tools who put Specter over Toomey last time.
They probably would have done it again if he had stayed in the GOP.

Elitist pricks piss me off.

6 I meant to address this
Is there some kind of, ya know, strategically rational faction of the Tea Party I can root for?

You're totally misunderstanding the main, fundamental fact about this deal.
There is no Tea Party.
There are only tea partiers.

 Go to a tea party event. Don't watch the speakers, check out the crowd. Most of them are ignoring the speakers too. They're just there to let their elected officials know they're unhappy about how they're doing their job.

Sarah Palin isn't a Tea Party Leader, she's saying stuff that tea partiers want to hear. If she tries to point tea partiers in a direction they don't want to go, they won't go.
If you understand that, it will make sense. What the tea partiers in Nevada do has little to do with what the ones in Delaware do.


There is no leadership, there are only a shitload of pissed off taxpayers who see elitist assholes calling them names, telling them to shut it, doing stuff against the interests of their voters all while spending their money and their children's money like the people who steal money from drunken sailors.

7 ok, "tea party" was imprecise, though I think it's fair to say there are factions amongst the tea partiers & TP sympathizers.  And with Ace's post, and the backlash to it, we're seeing that.

I mean something more like reform-oriented base voters.  Actually, quite a bit like Sarah Palin, who has shown a willingness to either embrace or buck the establishment when it is actually logical to do so.

Sometimes the party stumbles onto the truth.  Stopped clock, and all that.

8

If the incompetent fools at the NRSC stays out and lets things play their course, then I am OK with this one, since O'Donnell would get crushed in a general election.

....

But if Castle fucks up and goes full bore RINO and votes for cap&tax, against repeal of Obamacare, pro taxes, and pro Obama judges, then fuck them all. Many of us have been wounded too many times, and won't put up with the "leaders" in the not Obama crowd much longer to just take it anymore

 

9
Sometimes the party stumbles onto the truth.  Stopped clock, and all that.

Why the antipathy for the tea partiers? Seriously.

10 No antipathy.  But I can't say I consider myself one.  Sympathetic, most of the time, yes.  And sometimes I disagree, as with O'Donnell.

And it ain't like I don't criticize the party.  I've done way more of that.

11 Mark Levin has chunks bigger then you in his stool.

12 Touché, AlphaBase1.  Touché.

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