May 05, 2010
Ecotards ecotarding
So the puppy blender has a link to some eco-blog with the surprising headline that supporting electric vehicles is a waste of gov't money.
I had to click because it made me have to question my own preconceptions that led me to agree with eco-tards.
The first paragraph didn't help.
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Of course, it's all speculation for now because it's hard to determine the EVs' actual impact until they take to the streets and long-term studies can be conducted.
Ummmmmm. No.
You can check each vehicle's impact and I bet it will be very negative if they allow anything approaching a fair look.
First, batteries are very polluting and energy intensive to make and even more polluting to dispose of. Even recycling them is very polluting.
So making the vehicles is very polluting and very bad. Toxic elements from making batteries gets into the water table and hurt people for years to come.
Strike 1.
Second, we are not very efficient at utilizing energy.
Using petrol we lose a lot of the energy it has stored.
The exhaust from the engine contains unburnt petrol and noise and heat are also inefficiencies.
With electric cars we lose it turning the gas into electricity, then we lose it in transmission to where you would charge your car and then we lose it in charging the battery and then, well, our batteries aren't all that efficient either.
Strike 2
So we need more energy input to get the same output at the vehicle and we have extra-polluting batteries to make and dispose of.
The conclusion of the article makes me feel much better as they totally reject the premise of the headline.
Whew.
My favorite line from the article
Whether you believe Resch or not, we know EVs have environmental benefits regardless of where the electricity comes.
I'll translate from eco-tard:
Damn the facts, I know what I know. he even mentions hydro-power as a clean way to make electricity.
He's obviously never been to Niagara, NY. Do a search for Love Canal if you don't remember.
Niagara, on the US side, has a chemical stench that you get used to after a day or so. It's not pleasant.
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I had to click because it made me have to question my own preconceptions that led me to agree with eco-tards.
The first paragraph didn't help.
Quote
Of course, it's all speculation for now because it's hard to determine the EVs' actual impact until they take to the streets and long-term studies can be conducted.
Ummmmmm. No.
You can check each vehicle's impact and I bet it will be very negative if they allow anything approaching a fair look.
First, batteries are very polluting and energy intensive to make and even more polluting to dispose of. Even recycling them is very polluting.
So making the vehicles is very polluting and very bad. Toxic elements from making batteries gets into the water table and hurt people for years to come.
Strike 1.
Second, we are not very efficient at utilizing energy.
Using petrol we lose a lot of the energy it has stored.
The exhaust from the engine contains unburnt petrol and noise and heat are also inefficiencies.
With electric cars we lose it turning the gas into electricity, then we lose it in transmission to where you would charge your car and then we lose it in charging the battery and then, well, our batteries aren't all that efficient either.
Strike 2
So we need more energy input to get the same output at the vehicle and we have extra-polluting batteries to make and dispose of.
The conclusion of the article makes me feel much better as they totally reject the premise of the headline.
Whew.
My favorite line from the article
Whether you believe Resch or not, we know EVs have environmental benefits regardless of where the electricity comes.
I'll translate from eco-tard:
Damn the facts, I know what I know. he even mentions hydro-power as a clean way to make electricity.
He's obviously never been to Niagara, NY. Do a search for Love Canal if you don't remember.
Niagara, on the US side, has a chemical stench that you get used to after a day or so. It's not pleasant.
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