1 I truly have no idea.  I've got a leftarded friend that keeps trolling me, and absolutely ignores this stuff.  I mentioned the egregious and enormous illegal donations today and her response was the bullshit clothing budget for Palin, along with "helicopter polar bear hunts!!!1!!one!".  They are absolutely blinded by this bastard, and refuse to see that he's using criminally-acquired funds to buy an election.

2 My suspicion is that it has gone on so long now that everyone on the right is afraid to rock the boat for fear of riots if McCain were to win over some choice last-minute tidbit or a technicality.

A co-worker says that in event of a McCain win, we should "keep the powder dry and the weapons loaded."

3 If I had a guess, they've insulated Obama himself from the actual donation process.  A web designer might go down, whoever is supposed to be reviewing all the donations might go down, but not Obama.

4

The problem is simply this: there is so much fucked up with Barack Obama that it's taken on cartoonish proportions and, thus, everything you bring up about him is viewed through this lense and it's all summarily dismissed (I won't even bother mentioning the O-Bots as in leon's post: those people wouldn't dis-own Obama if he was caught performing back-alley abortions on his own daughters).

The guy is, almost literally, the personification of the type of socialist that lives in the fevered nightmares of conservatives the world over and, as has been mentioned by a lot of people already in various places, it is all so utterly ridiculous that you'd have trouble suspending disbelief even if he were a Bondian arch-villain.

Having said that, the sad fact is just about all the shit thrown at Obama *is* true and has ample documentation (we don't even have to dig into the birth cert stuff; who's his real Dad; and all the other fringe-but-connecty-dotty stuff that's out at the margins) and a great many people either don't know about or don't care. And, in the case of the former, even if they did know now, today, everything that's rotten about this character we'd be back to the problem of him being a larger-than-life cartoon super villain, i.e. back to square one.

5

If I had a guess, they've insulated Obama himself from the actual donation process. A web designer might go down, whoever is supposed to be reviewing all the donations might go down, but not Obama.

Is it anachronistic of me to pine for the days of accountability?

6 Oh great.  Make me all depressed when I have parental figures visiting and can't get drunk.

7 This is what y'all get for supporting (or at least putting up with) George W. Bush for the last eight years.
GWB has been the face of conservatism for the last year, even though there's nothing terribly conservative about his presidency.  So people look at the last eight years, figure all the problems are due to conservative ideas (even though in fact they're due to not adhering to conservative ideas), and tell themselves that there's no sense in being conservative if all they get is this, so why shouldn't they vote for the leftie?

8

This is what y'all get for supporting (or at least putting up with) George W. Bush for the last eight years.
GWB has been the face of conservatism for the last year, even though there's nothing terribly conservative about his presidency. So people look at the last eight years, figure all the problems are due to conservative ideas (even though in fact they're due to not adhering to conservative ideas), and tell themselves that there's no sense in being conservative if all they get is this, so why shouldn't they vote for the leftie?

This entire post is asinine and isn't even logically consistent or coherent.

Please try again and/or stop posting when you're drunk.

9 It may be time for citizen justice. Not exactly the way I'd like to go, but...

10 ECM--just how has the president who gave us Medicare Part D, NoChildLeftBehind, and the Department of Homeland Security, and now the partial nationalization of this country's financial system, decreased the size or power of government, or in any way decreased the power of government to stop me or you from doing whatever we want, as long as no one else gets hurt?

11

kishnevi: go re-read your post and tell me how what you said in that post has any bearing on what you said in this post.

NOBODY thinks any of the items you mentioned were a good idea. Let me say that again: NOBODY thinks any of the items you mentioned were a good idea.

I'd also submit that NOBODY that's actually a conservative thinks GWB is a conservative. The only people that call Bush a conservative are liberals and the left-leaning media because they want to vilify the entire movement by tarring us with every so-called bad move Bush made--even when he's doing things, left and right (as you noted), that they should drop to their knees and worship him for.

So when you come on here and insinuate that the people on this blog or conservatives at large were supporting Bush in some inappropriate fashion when we were all screaming bloody murder about exactly the programs you're talking about (and more!), when he nominated Harriet Miers to the SC, when he stabbed us on immigration well,when I've been telling everyone that says to me that Bush is a conservative for at least the past 6 years and I correct them and say "no, he's a moderate: he did this and this and this" I'm not going to listen to some clown telling me that it's OUR FAULT that conservatism is taking a beating this year. That's utter bullshit and you fucking know it.

So, like I said in response to your first post: don't post when you're drunk or, even better, when you feel like blaming everyone else for something they had no hand in at all. You can take that sort of 'eat our own' fucked up attitude over to the assclowns at DKOS and DU and peddle it to your heart's content but don't you dare accuse me and conservatives in general for something we had no hand in.

12 Hey guys - first off, I'm conservative...

ECM, I've been disgusted with Bush for years now but afraid of the alternatives.  To be fair, kishnevi said <blockquote>even though there's nothing terribly conservative about his presidency</blockquote>.  By the way, feel free to pine for accountability - we're in the same boat.

All the rest was pretty confused at best - no conservative worth his salt would support Bush except in the face of a really dire alternative.

The emotional response is the really tempting:  Vote out every single damn incumbent and start over.  Not sure how I feel about that idea in execution - I sure am pissed about the state of politics lately.  Not to sound elitist but I'm not sure the average American supporting Obama really understands the nature of the entire package and what it means.

Wait... I thought drunk posting was a requirement in moronblogging. 

13 I'm chiming in a little late here.

I think NCLB is a good idea.  It could use some modification and some better implementation.  The concept of holding public servants (i.e. teachers and administrators) accountable for achieving measurable success in their jobs is a new one, I know, but it has to be done.   It's idiotic to be pouring as much money into public schools as we do and not have a measurable accountability standard.

Unfortunately, the teachers unions don't want that accountability, especially from a Republican president, and so they have done everything they can to sabotage NCLB.  (This isn't paranoia talking, I've had a couple of teachers admit it.)