February 16, 2010

You wanna know why the Tea Party set is so unruly?

Because of shit like this, if there is one thing, just one thing that I've learned about PA politics, if there is a wrong choice or answer, the PA GOP leadership will make that wrong choice.  If there is a way to fuck something up, the PA GOP will fuck it up, with zeal.  There is no reason that PA should be as blue as it is.  The state GOP threw their support and endorsement to Tom Corbett.  GOP supporters and Tea Partiers posted their disagreement on the PA GOPs Facebook page, and the PA GOP promptly started deleting and banning comments and commenters who dared, dared question the exalted PA GOP's endorsement.

PA should have a good number of GOP pickups this year, but I guarantee our gains will be modest because of failures in leadership.  I don't think the Tea Partiers will run 3rd candidates in any significant way PA, but they will stay home if it's made clear they aren't wanted.

Posted by: doubleplusundead at 02:09 AM | Comments (13) | Add Comment
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1 Yep. Who can forget the awesome run of Larry Dunn?

Posted by: cbullitt at February 16, 2010 04:27 AM (gwh5D)

2 I don't know a ton about that Fitzpatrick race, but it could shape up to be Melissa Hart version 2.0.  My sense is that the PAWatercooler folks are ok with Fitz, so I'm not going to get too worked up about it.

I'm also significantly less concerned about the Corbett endorsement than some are.  It isn't like Corbett is Arlen Specter or anything.  I know of very few serious complaints against him, and he actually managed to win in 2008 statewide as a Republican -- the only one to win, in fact.

A lot of people just want to bitch at the party, which is (very) often warranted, but some people are even pissed about the Toomey endorsement.  God bless Peg Luksik, but she hasn't a snowball's chance in hell.

There's another development I'm actually rather concerned about, which is the potential backlash against Tim Burns in PA-12, should he be selected for the special election.  Tim Burns has attended multiple tea parties, is a solid conservative as far as I can tell., You'd think the way people are taking that the PAGOP is going to turn the district into NY-23, which would imply Burns is the second coming of Dede.  And that, he isn't.

Posted by: JoeCollins at February 16, 2010 09:30 AM (jtJig)

3 This is part of the difficulty with the response to just take over on the local level pov.  Yes, absolutely, that needs to be done as well.  There are areas, however, where the good ol' boy (or girl) network is so entrenched that the GOP response will be FOAD.  In that case, outside pressure needs to be brought to bear.  I don't see a problem with there being a two pronged approach.

Posted by: alexthechick at February 16, 2010 09:34 AM (8WZWv)

4 The Philly GOP is even worse if that's possible.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 16, 2010 09:41 AM (zgZzy)

5

atc, so long as at least one prong goes up their asses, I'm all in favor of a two-pronged approach.

But then, I'm used to NY politics so perhaps  I'm more angry at- and cynical about- politicians than normal.

Posted by: Veeshir at February 16, 2010 10:30 AM (aFnZ8)

6 That may be true Joe, but seriously, if people have legitimate complaints or concerns about the PA GOPs process here, or the candidates, they should be allowed to say it without the GOP censoring it and threatening blocking/banhammering people.  That kind of arrogance breeds major resentment.

Posted by: doubleplusundead at February 16, 2010 10:34 AM (GcfAO)

7 re: arrogance/resentment.

A-frickin'-men to that.  Arrogance and resentment define PA Republicans, and have for some time.

And here's an "arrogance" story -- A year ago, if somebody asked me how I'd feel about the PA Lt. Gov race, I'd say I didn't care one bit about it.  Today is a different story.  The state committee straw votes came back one-third for Cawley, and two-thirds divided among a slew of others.  So despite 2/3 of the state committee people voting for somebody OTHER than Cawley, they went ahead and endorsed him at the convention.  Problem being, Cawley is a self-described "progressive" (--shades of McCain, anyone?) and has other things he needs to do some 'splainin' for. 

Given this, it's fairly arrogant to jam him through because he balances out the ticket geographically, or because Bob Asher and/or Rob Gleason like him, and the state committee did a fairly big disservice to us on that one.

Posted by: JoeCollins at February 16, 2010 12:09 PM (jtJig)

8 Chad, basically, there's a good chance he's a douchebag.  In a two man race he might have done better, I suppose, but he might have done worse.  Meanwhile, there are some serious objections being raised about a guy who hasn't demonstrated more than 1/3 support among the group of folks most likely to be "go along, get along", the state committee people.

My basic criterion for judging a state committee action is "did we get a reasonably good candidate?"  On this race, there are some serious doubts, and the insider guy got everybody's benefit of the doubt precisely because he was the insider pick and for no other reason.  Sometimes the insiders get it right, sometimes they get it wrong.  This time I think "wrong".

Posted by: JoeCollins at February 16, 2010 01:16 PM (jtJig)

9 So which of you local PA bloggers is setting up the Facebook fan page for "The PA GOP has a stick up its ass" or something not as profane but still gets the point across?  The nice thing about Facebook is, you can set up a group like that, then keep an eye on whose comments get nuked, invite them to the group, they invite their friends, hopefully soon you have a fanbase to rival the local GOP.  If it hasn't already been done, one of you needs to GO GO GO! and get it done.  

Posted by: Alice H at February 16, 2010 03:40 PM (qJHYy)

10 So which of you local PA bloggers is setting up the Facebook fan page for "The PA GOP has a stick up its ass"

Facebook scares and confuses me. 

Posted by: alexthechick at February 16, 2010 04:49 PM (8WZWv)

11 Facebook scares and confuses me. 

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